Navigating Major Programmes

Fostering Innovation Through Collaboration on Alliance Contracts with Jane Ogilvie

Episode Summary

In this Master Builders episode of Navigating Major Programmes, hosts Riccardo Cosentino and Shormila Chatterjee challenge the mindset around alliance contracts with Jane Ogilvie, the Alliance Director of Toronto’s East Harbour Transit Hub Alliance and a 20-year veteran of major projects management in her home country of Australia. Jane shares the details of this collaborative approach—one that has long been popular in certain industries Down Under but is still quite new in Canada. From method variations to adopting an alliance contract model mid-project to the future of this framework in Canada and beyond, Jane’s insights highlight the benefits of abandoning an us-versus-them mentality in favour of more collaboration between project participants. “I've ​worked ​on ​P3s ​and ​alliances ​and ​a ​lot ​in ​between, ​as ​I ​mentioned. ​And ​I ​think ​P3s ​still ​have ​their ​place. ​You ​know, ​I ​think ​you ​need ​a ​mix ​of ​the ​different ​styles ​of ​contracts, ​and ​you ​need ​to ​look ​at ​the ​risk ​profile ​of ​a ​project ​to ​see ​which ​one ​makes ​sense. ​You ​know, ​uh, ​there ​is ​some ​types ​of ​contract ​where ​I ​would ​always ​say, ​you ​know, ​a ​P3 ​is ​probably ​a ​better ​model. ​And ​then ​there's ​ones ​that ​I'd ​say, ​obviously ​an ​alliance ​is ​a ​better ​way ​to ​go ​as ​an ​outcome. ​So ​as ​an ​owner, ​I ​think ​you ​need ​to ​look ​at ​that ​spectrum ​of ​where ​is ​the ​risk ​profile? ​How ​much ​of ​the ​risk ​can ​you ​share ​versus ​what's ​still ​a ​retained ​risk ​that ​you ​need ​to ​retain? ​As ​an ​owner, ​you ​can't ​push ​everything ​onto ​a ​contract.” - Jane Ogilvie

Episode Notes

In this Master Builders episode of Navigating Major Programmes, hosts Riccardo Cosentino and Shormila Chatterjee challenge the mindset around alliance contracts with Jane Ogilvie, the Alliance Director of Toronto’s East Harbour Transit Hub Alliance and a 20-year veteran of major projects management in her home country of Australia. 

Jane shares the details of this collaborative approach—one that has long been popular in certain industries Down Under but is still quite new in Canada. From method variations to adopting an alliance contract model mid-project to the future of this framework in Canada and beyond, Jane’s insights highlight the benefits of abandoning an us-versus-them mentality in favour of more collaboration between project participants.

“I've ​worked ​on ​P3s ​and ​alliances ​and ​a ​lot ​in ​between, ​as ​I ​mentioned. ​And ​I ​think ​P3s ​still ​have ​their ​place. ​You ​know, ​I ​think ​you ​need ​a ​mix ​of ​the ​different ​styles ​of ​contracts, ​and ​you ​need ​to ​look ​at ​the ​risk ​profile ​of ​a ​project ​to ​see ​which ​one ​makes ​sense. ​You ​know, there are ​some ​types ​of ​contract ​where ​I ​would ​always ​say, ​you ​know, ​a ​P3 ​is ​probably ​a ​better ​model. ​And ​then ​there's ​ones ​that ​I'd ​say, ​obviously ​an ​alliance ​is ​a ​better ​way ​to ​go ​as ​an ​outcome. ​So ​as ​an ​owner, ​I ​think ​you ​need ​to ​look ​at ​that ​spectrum ​of ​where ​is ​the ​risk ​profile? ​How ​much ​of ​the ​risk ​can ​you ​share ​versus ​what's ​still ​a ​retained ​risk ​that ​you ​need ​to ​retain? ​As ​an ​owner, ​you ​can't ​push ​everything ​onto ​a ​contract.” - Jane Ogilvie

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